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. >> i knew jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you're no jack kennedy. >> reporter: memorable moments. but hardly game-changers. while presidential debates can affect the outcome of an election, vice presidential debates, like this week's upcoming match-up between vice president joe biden and his gop challenger, paul ryan, are a different animal. >> you need to see that each candidate has hit the standard of readiness. that they will be ready to step into the oval office and take the reins of the presidency. beyond that, in terms of the actual debate itself, unless there is a star killing or catching moment, it rarely changes the course of the debate. >> reporter: democratic strategist, donna brazil, says, the first rule here, do no harm. >> try not breaking new ground. this is not an audition of 2016. this is about 2012. >> i don't like a damn thing about him. no. >> reporter: biden, who participated in more than 20 debates and forums in the 2008 campaign, says the contests are never easy. >> what i've been doing mostly
. >> i knew jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you're no jack kennedy. >> reporter: memorable moments. but hardly game-changers. while presidential debates can affect the outcome of an election, vice presidential debates, like this week's upcoming match-up between vice president joe biden and his gop challenger, paul ryan, are a different animal. >> you need to see that each candidate has hit the standard of readiness. that they will be ready to step...
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jack kennedy, ronald reagan -- >> oh, now you're jack kennedy. >> don't bring up that. at one point during tonight's debate, paul ryan described the stimulus law as a giveaway to special interest groups. vice president biden had prepared a response to that one. >> i love my friend here. i'm not allowed to show letters, but go on our website. he sent me two letters saying, by the way, can you send me some stimulus money for companies here in the state of wisconsin. we sent millions of dollars. you know why he -- >> you did ask for stimulus money? >> won it occasions. we advocated for constituents who were applying for grants. that's what we do. >> i love that. i love that. this is such a bad program, and he writes me a letter saying the reason we need this stimulus, it will create growth and jobs. his words. i wish he would just tell -- be a little more candid. >> unlike last week's presidential debate, tonight's debate did include some discussion of women's health issues, specifically each side's stance on abortion. >> if the romney/ryan ticket, if those that believe ab
jack kennedy, ronald reagan -- >> oh, now you're jack kennedy. >> don't bring up that. at one point during tonight's debate, paul ryan described the stimulus law as a giveaway to special interest groups. vice president biden had prepared a response to that one. >> i love my friend here. i'm not allowed to show letters, but go on our website. he sent me two letters saying, by the way, can you send me some stimulus money for companies here in the state of wisconsin. we sent...
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. >> jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you're no jack kennedy. (cheer (cheers) >> that was a fierce moment. >> that was a strong zinger and perhaps the most memorable moment from the vice-presidential debate and often, a vice-presidential debate is about assurance. can the second person on the ticket become president and step in if need be. you've got to remember in 1988 who was president? ronald reagan. lloyd benson had been in the senate 17 years, dan quayle, 7 years, that was about gravitas and the senior statesman versus the young new guy upstart. this time it's different because barack obama was in his 40's when he became president and even though joe biden is three decades older than paul ryan, that issue is muted a little bit. >> clayton: interestingly in 2008. then candidate biden, vice-presidential nominee at the time had a walk a delicate balance with sarah palin. he had to be respectful of her on the stage and strong a lot of people thought it was a tie at theened of the debate wherever you stand on it want matter, but here is a clip f
. >> jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you're no jack kennedy. (cheer (cheers) >> that was a fierce moment. >> that was a strong zinger and perhaps the most memorable moment from the vice-presidential debate and often, a vice-presidential debate is about assurance. can the second person on the ticket become president and step in if need be. you've got to remember in 1988 who was president? ronald reagan. lloyd benson had been in the senate 17 years, dan quayle, 7...
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. >> jack kennedy lowered tax rates, increased growth. >> now you're jack kennedy. >> here's how cnn scored it, practically a tie. vice president biden's son beau will discuss. first, governor romney on the warpath over libya, saying joe biden is in complete denial when he said during the debate last night the white house had no clue the u.s. consulate in benghazi wanted more security before the deadly attack that killed the ambassador. let's get right to our first guest to talk about it. republican congressman mike rogers, chairman of the house select committee on intelligence. mr. rogers, thank you for joining me. let me ask you straight away about your reaction to this issue that's now blowing up pretty big today about what joe biden said about what was known by we, and i use the word we advisedly. let's play first of all what was said by joe biden and by paul ryan in the debate last night. >> this is becoming more troubling by the day. they first blamed the youtube video. now they're trying to blame the romney/ryan ticket for making this an issue. >> we weren't told they wanted m
. >> jack kennedy lowered tax rates, increased growth. >> now you're jack kennedy. >> here's how cnn scored it, practically a tie. vice president biden's son beau will discuss. first, governor romney on the warpath over libya, saying joe biden is in complete denial when he said during the debate last night the white house had no clue the u.s. consulate in benghazi wanted more security before the deadly attack that killed the ambassador. let's get right to our first guest to...
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never jack kennedy lower tax rates increase growth brought already you're just getting ronald reagan you. know will leave that old thing to your judgment but we will say campaigning has come a long way since jack kennedy's era though he was part of a paradigm shift where candidates used t.v. to sway public opinion is as similarly powerful transformation now upon us our gas to victory lab the author of soft eisenberg says political campaigns have historically been resistant to innovation will tell us how this has changed and we often talk about algorithmic trading what about algorithmic campaigning oh yeah we'll talk about the data mining modeling and scientific techniques being used to win votes and get voters to polls in this election and just like in finance we'll talk about the challenges brought on by complexity plus the e.u. wins the nobel peace prize. we'll talk about it in loose change and respond to some of your viewer feedback let's get to today's capital account. last night was the veep debate in the us and if you pay attention to the message the commentary the fact checkin
never jack kennedy lower tax rates increase growth brought already you're just getting ronald reagan you. know will leave that old thing to your judgment but we will say campaigning has come a long way since jack kennedy's era though he was part of a paradigm shift where candidates used t.v. to sway public opinion is as similarly powerful transformation now upon us our gas to victory lab the author of soft eisenberg says political campaigns have historically been resistant to innovation will...
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ronald reagan -- >> oh, now you're jack kennedy? >> reporter: biden went right at ryan over mitt romney's controversial comments calling 47% of americans who don't pay income taxes irresponsible. >> the idea, if you heard that, that little soliloquy on 47%, you think he just made a mistake, then i got a bridge to sell you. >> i think the vice president very well knows sometimes the words don't come out of your mouth the right way. >> but i always say what i mean. >> reporter: when biden wasn't talking, he seemed oddly amused. by our count -- smiling or breaking out in laughter 92 separate times. expressive, often interrupting and occasionally personal. >> this is a bunch of stuff. look, here's the deal. >> what does that mean, a bunch of stuff? >> well, it means it's simply inaccurate. >> it's irish. >> it -- it is. we irish call it malarkey. >> thanks for the translation. >> reporter: and ryan needled ryan over the president's performance in last week's debate. >> i know you're under a lot of duress to make up for lost ground. but
ronald reagan -- >> oh, now you're jack kennedy? >> reporter: biden went right at ryan over mitt romney's controversial comments calling 47% of americans who don't pay income taxes irresponsible. >> the idea, if you heard that, that little soliloquy on 47%, you think he just made a mistake, then i got a bridge to sell you. >> i think the vice president very well knows sometimes the words don't come out of your mouth the right way. >> but i always say what i mean....
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. >>> jack kennedy and paul ryan, perfect together? some things about them that are similar. both young, energetic, vibrant. paul ryan things they have something in common, joe biden not so sure. the republican candidate invoked a camelot era comparison. this time, the issue taxes. >> you can cut tax rates by 20% and preserve important preferences for middle class taxpayers. >> not mathematically possible. >> it's been done before. >> it's never been done before. >> a couple of times. >> never been done before. >> ronald reagan. >> now you're jack kennedy. >> ronald reagan. >> twitter was atwitter about that. that comment got a noticeable reaction from the group of undecided voters i watched during the debate last night. see it blown up there in the bottom of the screen. here is the problem, both kennedy and reagan working in a different time and place. to start, when both kennedy and reagan took office, individual tax rates not even in the ballpark of what we have now. kennedy's plan, enacted after his death, took the top marginal tax rate from 91% to 71% over a two-year per
. >>> jack kennedy and paul ryan, perfect together? some things about them that are similar. both young, energetic, vibrant. paul ryan things they have something in common, joe biden not so sure. the republican candidate invoked a camelot era comparison. this time, the issue taxes. >> you can cut tax rates by 20% and preserve important preferences for middle class taxpayers. >> not mathematically possible. >> it's been done before. >> it's never been done...
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. >> jack kennedy lowered tax rates and increased growth. >> now you're jack kennedy. >> this is amazing. >> republicans and democrats have worked together on this. i understand you guys aren't used to bipartisan deals. >> when we did it with reagan, he said these are the things we'll cut. >> we'll fill in the details. >> that's how you get things done. you work with congress -- look, let me say it this way. >> republican congress, working bipartisanly. 7% rating, come on. >> 87% of legislators were democrats. he didn't dem niz them, dem going to them, he met with them every week, reached across the aisle, didn't compromise principles, and he balanced the budget. >> if he did such a great job. a great job -- >> without raising taxes. >> why isn't he contesting massachusetts? >> what would you suggest beyond raising taxes on the wealthy that would substantially reduce the long-term deficit. >> let taxes expire like they are supposed to on millionaires. we can't afford this going to people making a minimum of a million dollars. they don't need it tho. middle class people need the help. why
. >> jack kennedy lowered tax rates and increased growth. >> now you're jack kennedy. >> this is amazing. >> republicans and democrats have worked together on this. i understand you guys aren't used to bipartisan deals. >> when we did it with reagan, he said these are the things we'll cut. >> we'll fill in the details. >> that's how you get things done. you work with congress -- look, let me say it this way. >> republican congress, working...
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jack kennedy decreased tax growth. >> now you're jack kennedy? >> that's why these -- which if i'm not mistaken governor romney says we should continue. i may be mistaken. he changes his mind so often, i could be wrong. >> president obama has said he thought he was too polite in his debate with mitt romney. joe biden definitely did not play the polite card. biden offered up an aggressive attack on his challenger and roin delivered a spirit defense of conservative strategies proposed by the romney campaign. how several newspapers and w websites are describing the debate this morning. it was rapid fire. it was lively. simply put, it was hard to turn away from. i agree with that. maryland governor martin o'malley joins me now. good morning, mr. o'malley. how are you doing? >> i'm doing well, don. thank you. the vice president went out there and did what he needed to do and a lot of people are energized to see him on such an aggressive and needed calling out of the falsehoods and shell games that these other guys are proposing. >> i know you have som
jack kennedy decreased tax growth. >> now you're jack kennedy? >> that's why these -- which if i'm not mistaken governor romney says we should continue. i may be mistaken. he changes his mind so often, i could be wrong. >> president obama has said he thought he was too polite in his debate with mitt romney. joe biden definitely did not play the polite card. biden offered up an aggressive attack on his challenger and roin delivered a spirit defense of conservative strategies...
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kennedy, and you're no jack kennedy, and it became this famous sort of slice down. it was kind of the end of the debate. you look at when walter mondale was debating, and there was this age issue about reagan and whether he was -- you know, whether he was getting too old, et cetera, and he joked about it. it was after a bad debate, actually, and he joked about it and said i'm not going to make my opponents relative youth an issue here. there are things that can happen, and the dynamic really is the senior statesman and the new young upstart as you go in the joe biden and paul ryan. i think it will be fascinating to watch not just for what they say. there's a ryan plan on capitol hill that we'll hear about, and i think it's not just that. there's, what, 30 years between them. >> ryan certainly isn't shy about speaking his mind either. he could get pretty feisty. >> absolutely. and, you know, biden has done this over time for many, many years, and, again, ryan is kind of new to the scene. not that many debates under his belt. it can go either way here optically and wh
kennedy, and you're no jack kennedy, and it became this famous sort of slice down. it was kind of the end of the debate. you look at when walter mondale was debating, and there was this age issue about reagan and whether he was -- you know, whether he was getting too old, et cetera, and he joked about it. it was after a bad debate, actually, and he joked about it and said i'm not going to make my opponents relative youth an issue here. there are things that can happen, and the dynamic really is...
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. >> jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you're no jack kennedy. bill: does this year's vp debate carry more weight than normal? patti ann: also, why hundreds of retirees are now clashing with police in greece. bill: police are saying they stopped an apparent terror attack just in time after finding a man with maps of several churches and material needed to make multiple bombs. listen. >> any time you see a sack full of bottles, you know, with tape around them and a bunch of material, or, you know, thinking like that, you know, that is not normal crash. [ male announcer ] how do you measure happiness? by the armful? by the barrelful? the carful? how about...by the bowlful? campbell's soups give you nutrition, energy, and can help you keep a healthy weight. campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. bill: they are pweurpbg u.s. flags and the eu flags in the streets of athens, greece this morning. apparently these are hundreds of retirees clashing with the police during a protest against looming budget cuts in athens. greece is currently being forced
. >> jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you're no jack kennedy. bill: does this year's vp debate carry more weight than normal? patti ann: also, why hundreds of retirees are now clashing with police in greece. bill: police are saying they stopped an apparent terror attack just in time after finding a man with maps of several churches and material needed to make multiple bombs. listen. >> any time you see a sack full of bottles, you know, with tape around them and a bunch of...
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in the meantime go back to jack for the cafferty file. jack. >> the question this hour is why obama won't talk about benghazi instead of talking about big bird. pete writes from georgia, jack, consider his worshipping followers. 90% of them probably think benghazi's an italian line of shoes while feeling right at home with stories about big bird. for him to deal with reality on any is a line of italian shoes. >> rod writes that obama has to distract any attention from his record. they failed to secure the consulate in ben zazy. r writes personally, i don't want him to talk about it, especially when there's an investigation going on. did it not occur to anyone that there's a reason no terrorist group has taken responsibility? do you think it's a safe idea for the president or the secretary of state to broadcast what they know about the situation? mark says obama can avoid talking about what happened because the liberal media won't ask him the tough questions. b.j. says the administration can't talk about anything bad that happened on the a
in the meantime go back to jack for the cafferty file. jack. >> the question this hour is why obama won't talk about benghazi instead of talking about big bird. pete writes from georgia, jack, consider his worshipping followers. 90% of them probably think benghazi's an italian line of shoes while feeling right at home with stories about big bird. for him to deal with reality on any is a line of italian shoes. >> rod writes that obama has to distract any attention from his record....
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. >> i knew jab jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you're no jack kennedy. >> reporter: memorable moments but hardly game-changers. vice-presidential debates like this week's upcoming matchup between vice president biden and his gop challenger paul ryan are a different animal. >> you need to be able to see that each vice-presidential candidate has hit the standard of readiness, that they'll be ready in the event of a national crisis to step into the oval office and take the reins of presidency. beyond that, unless there's a star-killing or star-catching moment, it rarely changes the course of the debate. >> reporter: democratic strategist donna hill says the first step here is to do no harm. >> try not to break any ground. this is not an audition for 2016. >> i don't like a damn thing about it. >> reporter: biden who only participated in a few de-bates says the contests are never easy. >> what i've been doing mostly is, quite frankly, studying up on congress ryan's positions on the issues, and governor romney has embraced eve
. >> i knew jab jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you're no jack kennedy. >> reporter: memorable moments but hardly game-changers. vice-presidential debates like this week's upcoming matchup between vice president biden and his gop challenger paul ryan are a different animal. >> you need to be able to see that each vice-presidential candidate has hit the standard of readiness, that they'll be ready in the event of a national crisis to step into the oval...
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jack kennedy lowered tax rates, increased growth. ronald reagan... >> oh, now, you're jack kennedy. >> woodruff: abortion also figured as a key issue in the debate. both men are catholics, and they were asked to describe their position, based on their faith. >> i don't see how a person can separate their public life from their private life or from their faith. and i respect people who don't agree with me on this. but the policy of a romney administration will be to oppose abortion, with the exceptions for rape, incest, and life of the mother. >> life begins at conception. that's the church's judgment. i accept it in my personal life. i just refuse to impose that on others, unlike my friend here, the congressman. i do not believe that we have a right to tell other people that women, they... they can't control their body. it's a decision between them and their doctor, in my view. and the supreme court-- i'm not going to interfere with that. >> woodruff: biden warned a conservative supreme court majority would overturn a woman's right t
jack kennedy lowered tax rates, increased growth. ronald reagan... >> oh, now, you're jack kennedy. >> woodruff: abortion also figured as a key issue in the debate. both men are catholics, and they were asked to describe their position, based on their faith. >> i don't see how a person can separate their public life from their private life or from their faith. and i respect people who don't agree with me on this. but the policy of a romney administration will be to oppose...
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. >> jack kennedy lowered tax rates -- >> now you're jack kennedy. >> awesome. >> joe biden is -- >> yeah. >> but, you know, actually, couple things there. one is the biden saying not mathematically possible over and over again which is sort of where i think a lot of the left wanted the president to go really hard on this doesn't work. it's not -- it's not amyth ma tick -- the math doesn't work. but then the jack kennedy thing -- i'm curious to know what you thought of that. some on the right thought that was really unnecessary, that was a low blow, that wasn't very statesman like. other people said put the young whipper snapper in his place. >> that moment was just systematic of the debate. joe biden versus joe biden. ryan barely showed up. he passed the threshold and did fine but if you like sneering attacks from this kind of senator, you're going to love it. >> wow. >> sneering attacks from this pompous old senator. >> but if -- >> not a joe biden fan. >> i am a joe biden fan. if you think joe biden is over the top you're going to not like it. you saw the reactions kind of split d
. >> jack kennedy lowered tax rates -- >> now you're jack kennedy. >> awesome. >> joe biden is -- >> yeah. >> but, you know, actually, couple things there. one is the biden saying not mathematically possible over and over again which is sort of where i think a lot of the left wanted the president to go really hard on this doesn't work. it's not -- it's not amyth ma tick -- the math doesn't work. but then the jack kennedy thing -- i'm curious to know what you...
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that left the opening for jack benson to say you are no jack kennedy. i thought at the time this will turn this into a route and be the sound bite played forever and this is a bad night tore the gop ticket. i went down stairs into the press room and saw you david broader of the washington post a long time pretty fair minded reporter and i said what do you think about this. he said there may be some marginal effect but i don't think it will make much difference. he was absolutely right. in the end it didn't make any noticeable difference in the outcome of the election. >> chris: 15 seconds kirsten, does it matter? >> matters very little unless something super dramatic in terms of let's say paul ryan announced some new policy or something. in that way it would matter. otherwise i don't think it makes -- >> chris: thank you panel. see you you next week. check out panel plus where the group picks up with the discussion on our website. fox news sunday .com. we will post the video before noon eastern time. follow us on twitter @ foxnewssunday. up next, we go
that left the opening for jack benson to say you are no jack kennedy. i thought at the time this will turn this into a route and be the sound bite played forever and this is a bad night tore the gop ticket. i went down stairs into the press room and saw you david broader of the washington post a long time pretty fair minded reporter and i said what do you think about this. he said there may be some marginal effect but i don't think it will make much difference. he was absolutely right. in the...
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jack kennedy lowered tax rates. >> now you're jack kennedy? >> ronald reagan -- >> biden trying to make a moment of his own capitalizing when ryan brought up jfk. >> this is a bunch of stuff. look, here's the deal. >> what does that mean, a bunch of stuff? >> it's irish. >> we irish call it malarkey. >> it all came down to, again, stuff in this light moment. >> joe and i are from similar towns. he's from scranton, pennsylvania, i'm in james, wisconsin. you know what the unemployment is in scranton? 10%. when you guys came in it's 8.5%. >> you don't read this. that's not how it's going. it's going down. >> look -- >> all right. you're going to hear more about the debate coming up throughout the day on msnbc. that is going to wrap up this hour of "jansing and company." i'm chris jansing. richard lui is in next. >> malarkey was my favorite. one of the top tweeted moments. >> unbelievable how much traction that got. >> have a good weekend. coming up this next hour, pardon the interruption, the vice president brings the heat with laughs, guffaws an
jack kennedy lowered tax rates. >> now you're jack kennedy? >> ronald reagan -- >> biden trying to make a moment of his own capitalizing when ryan brought up jfk. >> this is a bunch of stuff. look, here's the deal. >> what does that mean, a bunch of stuff? >> it's irish. >> we irish call it malarkey. >> it all came down to, again, stuff in this light moment. >> joe and i are from similar towns. he's from scranton, pennsylvania, i'm in james,...
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>>> i knew jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend of mine. >> senator, you're no jack kennedy. >> welcome back to "hardball," live from center college in danville, kentucky. what can we expect from joe biden tonight? democratic chris van hollen, he's been playing biden in the sparring matches. i have a whole list of things. will he bring out romney's positions an abortion and paul ryan's personhood, which criminalizes abortion. can biden deliver that, too? joining me right now is u.s. congressman chris van hollen who happens to be my congressman and my wife's, probably more importantly. and gentlemen, i'm going to start with you, sir, because you've been there. you know what we don't know. you know how prepared joe biden is. is he? >> he's ready to go. he's looking forward to tonight and he understands the stakes are high and he's looking forward to talking about the choices in this election. absolutely. >> it's faster, more punches are thrown. does he have a different role than he knows for running for pres
>>> i knew jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend of mine. >> senator, you're no jack kennedy. >> welcome back to "hardball," live from center college in danville, kentucky. what can we expect from joe biden tonight? democratic chris van hollen, he's been playing biden in the sparring matches. i have a whole list of things. will he bring out romney's positions an abortion and paul ryan's personhood, which criminalizes abortion. can biden deliver that, too?...
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jack kennedy lowered tax increase growth. ronald reagan -- >> now you're jack kennedy? >> chairman of the budget committee stood his ground. >> this is what politicians do when they don't have a record to run on. try to scare people from voting for you. >> pressured on romney's plan to reform social security and medicare, ryan didn't back down. >> they haven't put a credible solution on the table. he'll tell you about vouchers. he'll say all these things to try to scare people. >> reporter: silenced the vice president, almost by connecting the president's jobs record to biden's hometown. >> joe and i are from similar towns. he's from scranton pennsylvania. i'm from wisconsin. do you know what the unemployment rate in scranton is today? >> i sure do. >> it's 10%. >> yeah. >> do you know what it was the day you guys came in? it's 8.5%. >> yeah. >> that's the way it's going all around america. >> trying to change the subject. he may have some cleanup of his own to do today on libya. he said last night the administration didn't know about additional security requests there
jack kennedy lowered tax increase growth. ronald reagan -- >> now you're jack kennedy? >> chairman of the budget committee stood his ground. >> this is what politicians do when they don't have a record to run on. try to scare people from voting for you. >> pressured on romney's plan to reform social security and medicare, ryan didn't back down. >> they haven't put a credible solution on the table. he'll tell you about vouchers. he'll say all these things to try to...
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when he said jack kennedy was a friend of mine, you're no jack kennedy. 8 out of 10 i think at the time said lloyd benson won that one. what happened three weeks later, the dukakis benson campaign went down in a landslide. generally the argument is that debates can only punctuate trends, they can't reverse that, i'm not so sure of that. but i think you are quite right, a big screw-up could, and a big-screw-up on obama's side, you don't want to see biden screw up so bad it reinforces an image this ticket ain't the ticket. barring that, it probably won't move the needle that much. we will see. ashley: thanks so much neil. don't miss our coverage hosted by neil cavuto at 8:00 p.m. eastern. it's going to be a lot of fun. we always wait to see what mr. biden may say. tracy: we do. ashley: even though he may not mean to say it, it sometimes come out, doesn't it? tracy: there's neil's fabulous commentary after. he's the energizer bunny. i love watching him. oil closing at $92.07 a barrel. that's a gain of nearly 1% based on what's going on overseas. and coming up, regulation nation again. jpmo
when he said jack kennedy was a friend of mine, you're no jack kennedy. 8 out of 10 i think at the time said lloyd benson won that one. what happened three weeks later, the dukakis benson campaign went down in a landslide. generally the argument is that debates can only punctuate trends, they can't reverse that, i'm not so sure of that. but i think you are quite right, a big screw-up could, and a big-screw-up on obama's side, you don't want to see biden screw up so bad it reinforces an image...
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. >> now you are jack kennedy. [overlapping dialogue] >> republicans and democrats have worked together on this -- >> that's right. >> i understand you are not used -- >> we told you what we are going to do. when we did it with reagan, he said, we are going to do this. >> that's how you get things done. let me say it this way -- >> from the republican congress, working bipartisanly? 7% rating. >> mitt romney was governor of massachusetts where 87% of the legislators were democrats. he didn't demonize them or demagogue them, he met with them every week, he reached across the aisle and he balanced the budget [overlapping dialogue] >> martha: vice-president, what -- >> [overlapping dialogue] -- >> why isn't he even contesting massachusetts? >> martha: what would you suggest beyond raising taxes on the wealthy -- >> just let the tax expire like they are supposed to those millionaires. we can't afford $800 billion going to people making a minimum of $1 million. they do not need it, martha. those 120,000 families make $8
. >> now you are jack kennedy. [overlapping dialogue] >> republicans and democrats have worked together on this -- >> that's right. >> i understand you are not used -- >> we told you what we are going to do. when we did it with reagan, he said, we are going to do this. >> that's how you get things done. let me say it this way -- >> from the republican congress, working bipartisanly? 7% rating. >> mitt romney was governor of massachusetts where 87%...
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jack kennedy, ronald reagan. biden: now your jack kennedy? gerri: that was a cheap sh. bided was wrong when he claimed lower tax rates never had higher revenues. 1920's were slashed from 70% down a 20%. there rose 60%. kennedy cut acros the board with the top rate down at 70%. tax revenues jump. ronald reagan proposed sweeping tax rate reduction and the result revenues up 99%. biden: we made sure we cut taxes for the middle-class. gerri: not even close to trooper release seven taxes from obamacare ball directly on the middle class. the tax for not having health care insurance. obamacare taxed the ma in the name of flexible spending account in those to deduct from taxes. i could go on and on. joe biden scored big points claiming hedgefunds would benefit. biden: 90% of small business america make less than $250,000. others are hedge funds making $600 billion per year that counts as the small business. gerri: hedge fund? the irs says they fall within the household of the top two brackets that the administration wants to raise taxes. and more than half of americans. vice pr
jack kennedy, ronald reagan. biden: now your jack kennedy? gerri: that was a cheap sh. bided was wrong when he claimed lower tax rates never had higher revenues. 1920's were slashed from 70% down a 20%. there rose 60%. kennedy cut acros the board with the top rate down at 70%. tax revenues jump. ronald reagan proposed sweeping tax rate reduction and the result revenues up 99%. biden: we made sure we cut taxes for the middle-class. gerri: not even close to trooper release seven taxes from...
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jack kennedy lowered tax rates and increased growth. >> now you're jack kennedy? >> and that is what most americans care about. and the former chairman of the council of economic advisors. nice to see you, austin. >> thank you, kbreta. >> greta: at the time tel me. were you surprised unemployment rate went down to 7.8%? is that a surprise. >> yes. it was a, if you look at data looks like it was an outlier there is a lot of variables on the numbers and it's bigger than i thought it would be. >> greta: is a number you're confident of? though you're surprised?. >> i would probably say some component of statistics. i won't be surprise fd it ticks up a little bit next month. the survey of people which is what the unemployment rate comes from has a job creation margin of error plus or minus 400,000 per month. anyone as i say, every month take a three-month average if you want to know how the job market is doing. >> greta: let me ask you about a three month average. this is what i said tonight. he said job growth in slept slower than in august. he said august slower than
jack kennedy lowered tax rates and increased growth. >> now you're jack kennedy? >> and that is what most americans care about. and the former chairman of the council of economic advisors. nice to see you, austin. >> thank you, kbreta. >> greta: at the time tel me. were you surprised unemployment rate went down to 7.8%? is that a surprise. >> yes. it was a, if you look at data looks like it was an outlier there is a lot of variables on the numbers and it's bigger...
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. >> jack kennedy lowered tax-- >> now you're jack kennedy. >> if jack kennedy only knew how much he would come up in vice presidential debates i think paul ryan knew where that was going. i'm joined by erol lewis and thomas frank, thank you for sticking around and talking to us. you know in looking back at this it really taxes the way that they come up in these debates. the thing they're not talking about are mitt romney's taxes. the idea that they can look back and talk about taxes and ryan still getting caught with these lies and then the next day saying that's exactly what we meant to say. how does this work, errol. >> a promise has been made. a big broad promise has been made to splash taxes. it's estimated by a reasonable objective source that this could cost treasury 5 trillion-dollar over ten years. a lot of people are naturally curious. where are you going to get that 5 trillion-dollar, and it's not in this ticket's political best interest to answer this question. let's say they can do this. the mortgage deduction is going to have to go. there are a number of important tax l
. >> jack kennedy lowered tax-- >> now you're jack kennedy. >> if jack kennedy only knew how much he would come up in vice presidential debates i think paul ryan knew where that was going. i'm joined by erol lewis and thomas frank, thank you for sticking around and talking to us. you know in looking back at this it really taxes the way that they come up in these debates. the thing they're not talking about are mitt romney's taxes. the idea that they can look back and talk...
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. >> it has never been -- >> jack kennedy lowered -- >> oh, be now you're jack kennedy? >> republicans and democrats have worked together on this. >> was that nervous laughter of the audience that you could hear? whol had to meet the threshold of competency and he did. biden scored points on substance. don't be surprised if we hear the most effective lines of attack from the president himself at next week's town hall-style debate in new york. the question is, how much was biden hurt on style. republicans did what they could to turn him into al gore, the eye rolls, sighs, that kind of thing. >> he reminded me of al gore in 2000 walking over and standing by president bush and getting in his face. >> i don't know if he thought it was a joke but he was laughing a lot. >> it was bizarre. i thought it was belittling. >> when the other side is spending their time tweeting and going after eye rolls and smirks, they are losing the debate and everybody knows it. >> the problem for republicans with the gore narrative, al gore did something we had never seen him do. democratic base
. >> it has never been -- >> jack kennedy lowered -- >> oh, be now you're jack kennedy? >> republicans and democrats have worked together on this. >> was that nervous laughter of the audience that you could hear? whol had to meet the threshold of competency and he did. biden scored points on substance. don't be surprised if we hear the most effective lines of attack from the president himself at next week's town hall-style debate in new york. the question is, how...
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. >> i knew jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you are no jack kennedy. >> memorable moments, but hardly game changers. while presidential debates can affect the outcome of an election, vice presidential debates like this upcoming match-up between biden and his gop challenger, paul ryan, are a different animal. >> can you see they have hit the standard of readiness, they will be ready to be able to step into the oval office and take the reigns of the presidency. but beyond that in terms of the actual debate itself, unless there's a star-killing or star-catching moment, it rarely changes the course of the debate. >> brazil says the first rule here is to do no harm. >> in terms of substance, don't break any new ground. this is not an addition for 2016, but it's about 2012 and the top of the ticket. >> biden said that contests are never easy. >> what i have been doing mostly is quite frankly studying up on congressman ryan's positions on the issues, and governor romney has embraced, at least everything that i can see. i don'
. >> i knew jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you are no jack kennedy. >> memorable moments, but hardly game changers. while presidential debates can affect the outcome of an election, vice presidential debates like this upcoming match-up between biden and his gop challenger, paul ryan, are a different animal. >> can you see they have hit the standard of readiness, they will be ready to be able to step into the oval office and take the reigns of the...
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. >> jack kennedy lower the tax rates. >> now y're jack kennedy. melissa: exhausting right? that is one of many testy changes. an coulter is political conservative commentator and author of, mugged. what do you think, ann? does any of that translate into votes? >> that is the question. that is precisely the question tt i don't think the obama partisans are asking themselves. biden's debate performance was very good gining up partisan zealots supporting obama come hell or high water. but for those crucial independents and undecided voters and also a lot of my gender, his smirking and fake laughter and scoffing, was incredit by off-putting. and i mean, biden reminded you of the worst boss you ever had, the worst boyfriend you ever had. the worst person you have ever met. melissa: there are people who thought that president obama wasn't strupg enough last time around and he came out and really socked it to paul ryan. i just, i wonder, you mentioned the undecided voters. every time i hear that i wonder who is undecided at this point? do you think there are a lot of those folks o
. >> jack kennedy lower the tax rates. >> now y're jack kennedy. melissa: exhausting right? that is one of many testy changes. an coulter is political conservative commentator and author of, mugged. what do you think, ann? does any of that translate into votes? >> that is the question. that is precisely the question tt i don't think the obama partisans are asking themselves. biden's debate performance was very good gining up partisan zealots supporting obama come hell or high...
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are jack kennedy? stuart: that was interesting. i would say the vice president thought it wrong. why? because it encouraged economic growth. running the company right now is someone who agrees with me. that is why he is here. steve forbes. welcome to the program. i think this is economic history 101. i think joe biden got it flat out wrong last night and you say? >> it was absolutely wrong. brian was not comparing himself to kennedy, he was talking about his tax proposals. the budget deficit went out and the american economy went up. the key thing is, let's forget about the government. they are a mess. what does it do for the american people and the economy? ryan was right on kennedy. he was right on reagan. stuart: you have taken part in republican high-level presidential debates. back in, what was it, 96 and 2000. you were in those debates. how do you judge biden's performance? >> the base of the party would love it did the most independent voters, the more and more they see, they will be put off by
are jack kennedy? stuart: that was interesting. i would say the vice president thought it wrong. why? because it encouraged economic growth. running the company right now is someone who agrees with me. that is why he is here. steve forbes. welcome to the program. i think this is economic history 101. i think joe biden got it flat out wrong last night and you say? >> it was absolutely wrong. brian was not comparing himself to kennedy, he was talking about his tax proposals. the budget...
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. >> jack kennedy proposed tax increase growth. >> now you're jack kennedy. this is amazing. >> republicans and democrats have worked together on this. i understand you guys aren't used to doing bipartisan deal. >> but we told you what we're going to do. when we did it reagan. >> here's the framework and work together to fill in the details. >> fill in the details. >> that's how you get things done. look, let me say it. >> that's coming from a republican congress working bipartisanly 7% rating. >> mitt romney was governor of massachusetts where 87% of the legislators he served with were democrats. he didn't demonize them. he didn't demagogue them. met with those party leaders every week. he reached across the & he didn't compromise principles and found common ground. >> if he did such a great job -- if he did such a great job in massachusetts why isn't he even contesting in massachusetts? >> what would you suggest beyond raising taxes on the wealthy that would substantially reduce the long-term deficit? >> let the taxes expire like they are supposed to on tho
. >> jack kennedy proposed tax increase growth. >> now you're jack kennedy. this is amazing. >> republicans and democrats have worked together on this. i understand you guys aren't used to doing bipartisan deal. >> but we told you what we're going to do. when we did it reagan. >> here's the framework and work together to fill in the details. >> fill in the details. >> that's how you get things done. look, let me say it. >> that's coming from a...
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the last thing that i remember is that lloyd bentsen said to dan quayle, you are no jack kennedy. it turned out that lloyd bentsen was no vice president, either. because it just didn't matter. will this thing matters subsequently to the outcome of the presidential election? >> i think you will be an important evening. an opportunity for him to show america what a wonderful human being he is. his level of integrity and intelligence and his knowledge about the budget. let's face it, we are facing a predictable cisis in this nation and theeason why i was so excited when governor romney pics paul ryan is not only do i know him as a fine human being, but he also, his actions put forward real solutions. at is so critically important nowadays when america is hungry for leadership, which this president simply has not. paul has been providing that leadership and that is what we sawhat governor romney as well. someone who had a command presents. he helps to get the legislation passed and i will be a critical difference. >> will he be able to do as well if they score as well, will he be able
the last thing that i remember is that lloyd bentsen said to dan quayle, you are no jack kennedy. it turned out that lloyd bentsen was no vice president, either. because it just didn't matter. will this thing matters subsequently to the outcome of the presidential election? >> i think you will be an important evening. an opportunity for him to show america what a wonderful human being he is. his level of integrity and intelligence and his knowledge about the budget. let's face it, we are...
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. >> senator, you're no jack kennedy. >> here's later in debate, al gore walked up t bush. >> al gore tries to come over and be the bully and get in his face. bush doesn't say anything. just looks at him, smiles, gives him the head wink, and goes on. >> i believe i can. >> that was it. it just -- you know, it just absolutely devastated gore. >>ou watch him go. >> yeah. we all revert to our junior high mentality, you know, when our team scored. yeah, you know! most people don't know is that bush had been prepared. >> jud gregg, who had played the role of al gore in the debate prep, had seen him pull ts trick. he said to bush, be prepared, he's going to come and get in your face. we all dismissed at the time, but sure enough it happened. >> which raises the question how do candidates prepared? these two debate coaches showed me. they prepped president bush for debate. o'donnell later coached mitt romney and michele bachmann. they spent hours trying to replicate debate moments. >> you have the candidate stand in front of a podium like this as realistic as possible? >> yeah. you want a st
. >> senator, you're no jack kennedy. >> here's later in debate, al gore walked up t bush. >> al gore tries to come over and be the bully and get in his face. bush doesn't say anything. just looks at him, smiles, gives him the head wink, and goes on. >> i believe i can. >> that was it. it just -- you know, it just absolutely devastated gore. >>ou watch him go. >> yeah. we all revert to our junior high mentality, you know, when our team scored. yeah, you...
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jack kennedy lowered tax rates. >> oh now you're jack kennedy. >> the most tweeted about moment last night. ben labolt is the obama for america press secretary and joins us from chicago. ben good morning to you. >> good morning, carl, thanks for having me back. >> i agree with what "the journal" said, this was a debate. we did get the back and forth as messy as it was. >> no question. >> our first question on style, i walk in this morning and fire up my computer there's a joke, what's joe biden's favorite candy? snickers. did you guys try to manage his laughter? did that get out of hand? >> you know, republicans like to talk about happy warriors and i think that's what we saw last night. look the vice president is authentic. he didn't bring a bunch of canned political talking points. what you see is what you get. people know he's telling the truth and congressman ryan brought about a bunch of canned talking points and they didn't hold up. he couldn't defend the $5 trillion tax cut for the wealthiest. >> people talked about him going in, biden going into this debate, ben, with a gravi
jack kennedy lowered tax rates. >> oh now you're jack kennedy. >> the most tweeted about moment last night. ben labolt is the obama for america press secretary and joins us from chicago. ben good morning to you. >> good morning, carl, thanks for having me back. >> i agree with what "the journal" said, this was a debate. we did get the back and forth as messy as it was. >> no question. >> our first question on style, i walk in this morning and fire...
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. >> it has been done before, jack kennedy lowered taxes and increased growth. >> now are you jack kennedy. >> this is amazing. >> republicans and democrats have worked together on this. >> that's right. >> i understand you aren't used to being by artisan. >> but we told what we were going to do, when we did it with reagan we said here is what we will cut, this is what he said. show the details. >> that is how you get things done, let me say it this way. >> that is coming from the republican congress, working bipartisanly? 7% rating? come on. >> mitt romney was governor of massachusetts where 87% of the legislators he served with were democrats. he didn't demonize them. he didn't demogue them. he met with those party leaders every week. he reached across the aisle, he didn't compromise principless. >> and you saw what happened. >> he balanced the budget. >> if he did such a great job-- why isn't he even contesting massachusetts. >> what would you suggest beyond raising taxes on the wealthy that would substantially -- >> just let taxes expire like they are supposed to on those millionaires.
. >> it has been done before, jack kennedy lowered taxes and increased growth. >> now are you jack kennedy. >> this is amazing. >> republicans and democrats have worked together on this. >> that's right. >> i understand you aren't used to being by artisan. >> but we told what we were going to do, when we did it with reagan we said here is what we will cut, this is what he said. show the details. >> that is how you get things done, let me say it...
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. >> now you are jack kennedy. [laughter] >> republicans and democrats have worked together on this. i understand you guys are not used to doing bipartisan deals. that is how you get things done. >> the republican congress working? 7% rating? >> mitt romney was governor of massachusetts. he did not demonize them, he did not demagogue them. he met with those party leaders every week. he did not compromise principles. he balanced the budget. >> why isn't he contesting massachusetts? >> what would you suggest beyond raising taxes on the wealthy? >> let the taxes expire like they were supposed to on these millionaires. we cannot afford $800 billion going to people making a minimum of a million dollars. they do not need it, martha. those 120,000 families make $800 million a year. why is my friend -- >> can you declare anything off-limits? home mortgage deductions? >> this taxes a million small businesses. >> 97% of the small businesses make less than $250,000 a year. >> this taxes a million people. >> 97%. >> and you're
. >> now you are jack kennedy. [laughter] >> republicans and democrats have worked together on this. i understand you guys are not used to doing bipartisan deals. that is how you get things done. >> the republican congress working? 7% rating? >> mitt romney was governor of massachusetts. he did not demonize them, he did not demagogue them. he met with those party leaders every week. he did not compromise principles. he balanced the budget. >> why isn't he...
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. >> now you're jack kennedy. >> ronald reagan -- >> reporter: it is a busy day today for three of the four guys on the ticket. mitt romney is on his way from north carolina, in virginia later this evening, he meets up with paul ryan for a big joint event in ohio. joe biden is going to paul ryan's home state of wisconsin. meanwhile, president obama actually has sort of a down day at the white house, though he does have a dinner with a bunch of campaign supporters. matt? >> chuck todd, thank you very much. rachel maddow is the host of msnbc's rachel maddow show. coffee is on me. going s debate, everybody said the goal of joe biden was to steady the ship, calm the nerves on the democratic side. did he do that? >> absolutely. democrats are psyched joe biden had a great night. you said at the top there was no clear winner and that may be, but it was important for the democrats that paul ryan not be the clear winner. most democrats, i don't know about independents, but most democrats think joe biden won. >> i think there's no winner because of joe biden's style, his demeanor. if we learned
. >> now you're jack kennedy. >> ronald reagan -- >> reporter: it is a busy day today for three of the four guys on the ticket. mitt romney is on his way from north carolina, in virginia later this evening, he meets up with paul ryan for a big joint event in ohio. joe biden is going to paul ryan's home state of wisconsin. meanwhile, president obama actually has sort of a down day at the white house, though he does have a dinner with a bunch of campaign supporters. matt?...
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. >> jack kennedy lowered tax -- >> now you're jack kennedy? >> ronald reagan. >> you are no jack kennedy, 24 years later. joe biden turned up the intensity after a lackluster debate performance at the top of the ticket. good morning. i'm willie geist and this is "way too early." in danville, kentucky, they were pressed from the moderator. some of the shorpest points of contrast came on the subject of iran's nuclear program and the two sides conflicting plans for medicare. the vice president made an effort to be engaged even when congressman ryan had the floor. unlike president obama, the vice president kept his eyes on his opponent smiling and shaking his head as the republican candidate attacked. >>> the hot topic of libya and the deadly assault in benghazi that killed four americans including the u.s. ambassador. president obama's deputy campaign manager suggested the only reason the obama's handling of the attack is because the republicans are talking about it on the campaign trail. she said that was reckless and irresponsib irresponsible.
. >> jack kennedy lowered tax -- >> now you're jack kennedy? >> ronald reagan. >> you are no jack kennedy, 24 years later. joe biden turned up the intensity after a lackluster debate performance at the top of the ticket. good morning. i'm willie geist and this is "way too early." in danville, kentucky, they were pressed from the moderator. some of the shorpest points of contrast came on the subject of iran's nuclear program and the two sides conflicting plans...
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kennedy -- >> oh, now you're jack kennedy? >> done exactly right and is absurd. >> you know, i think the republicans that i saw during the debate and after were saying, that was rude he wasn't allowing him to talk? you know, what's wrong with that? i like the idea that he was doing the constant interjex. it was getting under ryan's skin. it was rattling him. what's wrong with the grimmaces, the constant heckling? the policies were one thing and i think getting in his face was just the right medicine last night. >> now, let me ask the big picture political question, dana, and i want margie to weigh in as well. the democratic base for mr. b biden or did it just help ril up the base? >> it did clearly energyize the base. people are asking does that turn off independents or undecideds. i think even if it did that to some extent, what needed to be done was the reverse, the narrative that had been in place since a week ago that the democrats were back on their heels on the defensive. joe biden was not on the defensive last night. he
kennedy -- >> oh, now you're jack kennedy? >> done exactly right and is absurd. >> you know, i think the republicans that i saw during the debate and after were saying, that was rude he wasn't allowing him to talk? you know, what's wrong with that? i like the idea that he was doing the constant interjex. it was getting under ryan's skin. it was rattling him. what's wrong with the grimmaces, the constant heckling? the policies were one thing and i think getting in his face was...
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. >> jack kennedy lowered tax rates. >> now you are jack kennedy. >> republican -- [overlapping dialogue] >> republicans and democrats have worked together on this. i understand you are not used to bipartisan deals. >> we told them what we are going to do. ronald reagan said here's what we are going to cut. fill in the details. >> that's how you get things done. let me say it this way -- >> republican congress, working bipartisanly? 7% rating? >> mitt romney was governor of massachusetts where 87% of the legislators he deserved with were democrats. he didn't demonize or demagogue them. he met with them every week. he reached across the aisle, he didn't compromise principles and he balanced the budget -- [overlapping dialogue] -- >> if he did such a great job in massachusetts, why isn't he even contesting massachusetts? >> what would you suggest beyond raising taxes on the wealthy that would substantially reduce -- >> just let the taxes expire like they are supposed to on those millionaires. we don't -- we can't afford $800 billion going to people making a minimum of $1 million. they do n
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now he's sitting here to make-- >> jack kennedy lowered-- >> now you're jack kennedy. [ chuckling ] >> cenk: even ryan had to laugh at that jack kennedy. you know, jennifer, i've been waiting for so long for someone to say hey you guys started the recession. you created the deficit and so biden finally came out and said it and then he throws the stimulus letters on top to rub it you just played showed the hypocrisy on a number of levels, the hypocrisy about who started the problem to begin with. but the most damning point of the debate for those of us interested in the domestic issues were those stimulus letters. who could ryan say? that's what we do. he says in the letter that it was help to create jobs in his district and he admits it. >> cenk: oops. >> jennifer: oops is right. it goes to speak not just to him but all the republican congressmen who on the one hand are talking up and dising the stimulus, but on the other hand trying to get some for their districts so they could look good. i thought it was a beautiful movement. >> cenk: ultimateabsolutely: now of course a lot of peopl
now he's sitting here to make-- >> jack kennedy lowered-- >> now you're jack kennedy. [ chuckling ] >> cenk: even ryan had to laugh at that jack kennedy. you know, jennifer, i've been waiting for so long for someone to say hey you guys started the recession. you created the deficit and so biden finally came out and said it and then he throws the stimulus letters on top to rub it you just played showed the hypocrisy on a number of levels, the hypocrisy about who started the...
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. >> jack kennedy -- >> jack kennedy coming up in these debates. both men covered several elections. biden came off as rude he has never seen anything like this from any other candidate. >> what you saw while paul ryan was talking was smirking, laughing, smiling, mugging, by the vice president. and my sense about it was that it was so xheling people couldn't see the keep their eye off of it. i thought it was unattractive and rude and i have a feeling it will come across as rude. it looks like a cranky old man to some extent debating a polite young man. >> i think i have watched almost every presidential and vice presidential debate since the first four kennedy nixon debates since 1960 thinking back over the next few minutes i don't believe i have ever seen a debate when one participant was as openly disrespectful as the other as biden was to paul ryan. you can talk about the smirks the head shaking, it was con tenuous and disrespectful. >> that lead us to our brew on this question of the day. what did you think of the debate? send your comments via
. >> jack kennedy -- >> jack kennedy coming up in these debates. both men covered several elections. biden came off as rude he has never seen anything like this from any other candidate. >> what you saw while paul ryan was talking was smirking, laughing, smiling, mugging, by the vice president. and my sense about it was that it was so xheling people couldn't see the keep their eye off of it. i thought it was unattractive and rude and i have a feeling it will come across as...
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. >> jack kennedy lowered tax rates. >> now you're jack kennedy! gentleman 23 million minutes are struggling for work. >> i know you're under a lot of duress to make up for lost round. [ laughing ] >> reporter: biden laughed at ryan throughout the debate. he challenged mitt romney's tax plan for aggressively than president obama did in his debate. >> it shouldn't be surprising for a guy who says 47% of the american people are unwilling to take responsibility for their own lives. they pay more effective tax than governor romney pays in his federal income tax. >> reporter: the moderator martha raddatz set it was more intimate. >> the jabs felt more personal. >> reporter: both sides claiming victory as they head back on the campaign trail to rally more support. debate was a tie. biden brought energy the democrats wanted and ryan brought seriousness the republicans needed. >> reporter: romney and ryan are campaigning to the in ohio. biden is hitting the trail in wisconsin with anticipation building for the second presidential debate next week. broken d
. >> jack kennedy lowered tax rates. >> now you're jack kennedy! gentleman 23 million minutes are struggling for work. >> i know you're under a lot of duress to make up for lost round. [ laughing ] >> reporter: biden laughed at ryan throughout the debate. he challenged mitt romney's tax plan for aggressively than president obama did in his debate. >> it shouldn't be surprising for a guy who says 47% of the american people are unwilling to take responsibility for...